tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post1098104536342259407..comments2023-10-26T03:19:41.569-07:00Comments on Stephen Bodio's Querencia: A few more thoughts on dog restrictionsSteve Bodiohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14434597061701369867noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-27038891368872542132008-02-15T11:49:00.001-08:002008-02-15T11:49:00.001-08:00That was "kill the hare by ganging up on it" and "...That was "kill the hare by ganging up on it" and "sorry to hear". Preview is my friend. <BR/><BR/>Mikemdmnmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00191436711956580423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-69717825620895905962008-02-15T11:49:00.000-08:002008-02-15T11:49:00.000-08:00That was "kill the hare by ganging up on it" and "...That was "kill the hare by ganging up on it" and "sorry to hear". Preview is my friend. <BR/><BR/>Mikemdmnmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00191436711956580423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-61266981541208461382008-02-15T11:46:00.000-08:002008-02-15T11:46:00.000-08:00Steve-Thanks! Good to know. Without having partici...Steve-<BR/><BR/>Thanks! Good to know. Without having participated or been around it myself, hound hunting strikes me as having the potential to be as challenging and ethical or easily abused as many other variations. ATV's, cold strikes from truck beds, and gps collars would seem to lower the sport. On the plus side, for bears and lions it offers the chance of catch & release- if you end up with a juvenile lion or bear, or a nursing female, you can call off the dogs and leave them to go on their way. <BR/><BR/>I do take the point about hound hunting appearing bad to antis. Dogs baying after a fleeing animal running for its life is pretty evocative. Of course, whatever a hunter does is going to look bad to anti's eyes- the gazehounds kill the hare by ganging on it and then one _bites it_, an arrow bleeds a critter out (which I'm a bit squeamish about), a muzzleloader is underpowered or archaic and indicates an un-PC fantasy, a modern rifle is unsporting because it is "a high powered hunting rifle". Damned pretty much any way we do. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for the response and I'm sorry to here about Peterson's narrow mindedness on the subject. He may be underestimating the pass archers get for using short-range tackle.mdmnmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00191436711956580423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-65467632277173353962008-02-15T09:04:00.000-08:002008-02-15T09:04:00.000-08:00Mike: Dave's attack on hounds was mostly off the r...Mike: Dave's attack on hounds was mostly off the record, in correspondence with me, Don Thomas, and Dutch Salmon. His objections were that it was cruel, unfair, and that it looked bad to antis. He had never read up on it never mind done it, and had no more idea of it than a PETA member!<BR/><BR/>I don't think it is unfair. It is very difficult and there aren't many hound packs today. I don't think it is as "cruel" as an arrow. I suppose you could make a case for it being unnecessary for bears, but how on earth would you hunt lions?<BR/><BR/>And do you think antis think any kind of hunting is better than any other? (Sorry, I don't mean "YOU"!)<BR/><BR/>Remember, Paul Shephard was as anti- domestication as PETA, and wanted all domestic animals done away with. He is at least a minor god to Dave.Steve Bodiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14434597061701369867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-61443397503573784132008-02-15T08:04:00.000-08:002008-02-15T08:04:00.000-08:00Late comment:Steve- I haven't seen Dave Peterson's...Late comment:<BR/><BR/>Steve- I haven't seen Dave Peterson's attack on hound hunting but I think it likely that it could stem in part from the uneasy sharing of the woods by archery elk hunters and bear hunters. The two seasons run about the same time and if you ever want an earful, go to an Elk Foundation event around some bow hunters and mention bear hunting with hounds. Lots of stories of lost & run-down dogs, dogs raiding camps, and general dismissive attitude from the bear guys. I haven't seen any of that myself, but I've heard the complaints a number of times. As a bowhunter, Peterson may have had some problems, too.mdmnmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00191436711956580423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-40178847927987362472008-02-09T14:59:00.000-08:002008-02-09T14:59:00.000-08:00"But I support all ethical and sustainable hunting..."But I support all ethical and sustainable hunting, and reject over- regulation of one's animals (ALWAYS by people who know less about it than those on the human - animal interface, and always at the behest of AR agendists with their money and sentimental ads and Hollywood star publicity."<BR/><BR/>Well said Steve.<BR/><BR/>The younger Kazakh's in the cities though are falling for the animal rights propaganda too though. I was working in Almaty this past summer and both our translators this year and last year used to argue with me about hunting. It is a beautiful country though.<BR/>regards<BR/>DanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-10853229252748373402008-02-08T15:39:00.000-08:002008-02-08T15:39:00.000-08:00It's good, Luisa. I know about "damn tags"-- you s...It's good, Luisa. I know about "damn tags"-- you should see how long it takes to do a link- heavy post like the previous.<BR/><BR/>And they DID do a good job with Vick's dogs-and since I like pit bulls that is A Good Thing.Steve Bodiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14434597061701369867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-48034679556886062402008-02-08T15:27:00.000-08:002008-02-08T15:27:00.000-08:00Last shot, and then the monitor goes out the windo...Last shot, and then the monitor goes out the window.<BR/><BR/>Once again, with link goodness.<BR/><BR/>The AKC has sold its <A HREF="http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/02/07/beating-puppy-mills-or-joining-them" REL="nofollow">soul</A>, such as it was, to the millers and pet shops. Not in bed with PETA, if you ask <A HREF="http://lassiegethelp.blogspot.com/2008/02/peta-wants-to-kill-my-dogs-and-yours.html" REL="nofollow">me</A>.<BR/><BR/>Thought I could support the ASPCA, since it doesn't seem to oppose the raising of livestock and the use of stockdogs, but they oppose hunting, sure enough, so that's the end of that. Too bad, since they did right by the Vick dogs: both the HSUS and PETA wanted those dogs killed right away, but the ASPCA [and others] lobbied for individual evaluations in hopes there would be some good dogs in the bunch. <A HREF="http://www.badrap.org/rescue/vick/index.cfm" REL="nofollow">There were</A>, and <A HREF="http://badrap-blog.blogspot.com/2008/02/hey-people-lets-have-pit-bull-party.html" REL="nofollow">there are</A>.<BR/><BR/>Damn tags.Luisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04042236324318156854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-76532981919795933832008-02-08T15:19:00.000-08:002008-02-08T15:19:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Luisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04042236324318156854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-18427235560629186252008-02-08T15:05:00.000-08:002008-02-08T15:05:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Luisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04042236324318156854noreply@blogger.com