tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post6113639831679340924..comments2023-10-26T03:19:41.569-07:00Comments on Stephen Bodio's Querencia: Little Red Riding Hood Was RightSteve Bodiohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14434597061701369867noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-26557520540193590712007-12-23T18:00:00.000-08:002007-12-23T18:00:00.000-08:00I read something today that put me in mind of this...I read something today that put me in mind of this wolf post of yours:<BR/> http://scienceblogs.com/laelaps/2007/12/problem_wolves_in_alaska.php<BR/><BR/>Click on the link in blog and read the article about the wolf attacks on dogs in Alaska; If the account is even half true it would scare the crap out of me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-61466904193898134502007-05-31T08:24:00.000-07:002007-05-31T08:24:00.000-07:00One reason there may have been so few wolf attacks...One reason there may have been so few wolf attacks on people in early North America is that the people(Native Americans, pioneers) were animal savvy, and knew how to act/react when confronting predators--i.e., they didn't panic or act like prey--plus, there was still a lot of big game for the wolves to prey on, unlike game devoid areas in Europe. Modern overly urbanized Americans show little understanding about how to act around animals, wild or domestic, which will inevitably lead to unfortunate incidents.A. Lane Batothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14932323269911380387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-87013044188852703962007-05-30T17:29:00.000-07:002007-05-30T17:29:00.000-07:00Sisterflash-- Val thinks so too. And so do I. Thes...Sisterflash-- Val thinks so too. And so do I. These wolves are way over the line in their behavior, and should have been handled differently.<BR/><BR/>Another reason to be armed....Steve Bodiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14434597061701369867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-18077633424902899622007-05-20T22:15:00.000-07:002007-05-20T22:15:00.000-07:00Intresting topic. I am living with the FWS habitu...Intresting topic. I am living with the FWS habituated Mexican Gray wolves.<BR/><BR/>These wolves have followed us home, denned near homes, attacked near childeren, dogs have intercepted wolves heading to childeren on private land, entered hunting camps, followed people on horse back, circled childeren..we you are getting the picture.<BR/><BR/>Not to mention all the dogs, horses and cattle that have been injured for life or slaughtered.<BR/><BR/>Nothing is being done to change these animals behavior.<BR/><BR/>I suspect that the next bad wolf incident will occur in Arizona, New Mexico area from these captive raised habituated wolves.sisterflashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08081341700333279864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-69051534299267714762007-05-20T18:16:00.000-07:002007-05-20T18:16:00.000-07:00Jerry-- that is too true to be funny. If wolves we...Jerry-- that is too true to be funny. If wolves were in Moab they'd be a game species already. Or varmint.Steve Bodiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14434597061701369867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-41352450911688835762007-05-20T15:41:00.000-07:002007-05-20T15:41:00.000-07:00If we have to steer a middle course between extirp...If we have to steer a middle course between extirpation and letting wolves run amok, it would seem that allowing limited sport hunting would be the best solution to maintain a healthy fear of humans. <BR/><BR/>I wonder if this course will become more acceptable to the general public when wolves progress from menacing "welfare ranchers" to snagging mountain bikers?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-3425009492651960872007-05-19T11:45:00.000-07:002007-05-19T11:45:00.000-07:00HT = Hat tip, right??W HingleyHT = Hat tip, right??<BR/><BR/>W HingleyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-63177603931045206412007-05-19T06:02:00.000-07:002007-05-19T06:02:00.000-07:00"The view of the “harmless” wolf was greatly welco...<I>"The view of the “harmless” wolf was greatly welcomed by the communist party of Russia, which ever since coming to power suppressed accounts of man-killing wolves. During and after the Second World War such censorship intensified, as was only disclosed after the fall of the communist rule in Russia. The reason for such suppression was to obscure the link between lethal wolf attacks and the disarming of the civilian population during the war."</I><BR/>Wow - there's the start of a book in those 3 sentences.<BR/><BR/>Speaking of risks - if you happen to drive to the trailhead/landing/turnout, I have a prediction regarding the most dangerous part of the trip! We (humans) suck at real risk assesment - I'll bet that back in Red's time bad water or getting kicked by a horse was a lot more likely to kill you than a wolf attack (even given a higher attack likelihood back then).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-50098149009486056602007-05-18T18:06:00.000-07:002007-05-18T18:06:00.000-07:00The BBC News/Europe http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/eur...The BBC News/Europe http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/default.stm<BR/><BR/>has a short story/video clip today about increasing predation on sheep by wolves in the French and Italian Alps.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-29558008563716214442007-05-18T13:19:00.000-07:002007-05-18T13:19:00.000-07:00I like the approach taken by the International Wol...I like the approach taken by the International Wolf Center (website at http://www.wolf.org/): They advocate for wolves without becoming their apologists. No Farley-Mowat-they-live-on-mice nonsense, but good information on real wolves. Yes, they <I>will</I> occasionally take livestock -- here's what stockmen can do about it -- and there's no guarantee it will always work. Yes, they <I>will</I> under certain circumstances threaten humans -- but here are the numbers. Education without a lot of spin, policy recommendations that consider real-world factors: Here's an approach to conservation that just might work...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-82888745703365541542007-05-18T10:54:00.000-07:002007-05-18T10:54:00.000-07:00"bees are still the thing to fear in the woods."Am..."bees are still the thing to fear in the woods."<BR/><BR/>Amen, Patrick! I carry a pistol in the woods in case of a (pretty unlikely) predator confrontation(I worry more about lions attacking my dogs-- have friends who have lost dogs to cats). But I am WAY more nervous about bees (and many of ours are Africanized as well!)Steve Bodiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14434597061701369867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-60876465105694870862007-05-18T10:43:00.000-07:002007-05-18T10:43:00.000-07:00Reality has a way of trumping theory on both ends ...Reality has a way of trumping theory on both ends of the scale. <BR/><BR/>The folks that suggest that all wolves anywhere are a bad idea have little evidence to support their case, while the folks that suggest large predators cannot be a serious problem worthy of an immediate bullet, are similary handicapped.<BR/><BR/>The amazing thing here in the MidAtlantic states is that we have a very rapidly rising population of large-bodied coyotes AND a huge amount of rabies, AND high human population densities. Put all that together, and I would have predicted real problems, but so far there have only been 2-3 rabid coyote attacks on humans that I know of (and I do scan for such things). <BR/><BR/>When it comes to mortality, bees are still the thing to fear in the woods. And that's true, even in wolf and mountain lion country. <BR/><BR/>PatrickPBurnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05781540805883519064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-62164613114486384002007-05-18T09:25:00.000-07:002007-05-18T09:25:00.000-07:00This touches on the place I've been going with my ...This touches on the place I've been going with my blogs on applied behavior analysis. The experts in this field that I talk to are always confounded as to why ABA experts are not an automatic addition to any conservation problem-solving team. This is the person that has the ability to cut through the BS (constructs and pervasive anecdotes), examine the straight behavior and prompt solution-making. Realistic and workable solutions - like trained aversion.Rebecca K. O'Connorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03203358870369377876noreply@blogger.com