tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post2306374357769255729..comments2023-10-26T03:19:41.569-07:00Comments on Stephen Bodio's Querencia: MuscariaSteve Bodiohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14434597061701369867noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-35406899790908740102014-09-22T12:42:19.897-07:002014-09-22T12:42:19.897-07:00Thanks, Debbie. I will probably get back to you-- ...Thanks, Debbie. I will probably get back to you-- just a seeker after truth myself!Steve Bodiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14434597061701369867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-34290537585629398712014-09-22T11:56:12.315-07:002014-09-22T11:56:12.315-07:00Hey,
I am a west coast mushroomer with scads of e...Hey,<br /> I am a west coast mushroomer with scads of experience around amanitas in general and muscaria in particular. It is a very small world, and I know all of those mushroom folks that you mentioned, and enjoy most of them!<br /><br />BUT! I do not agree with Rubble and Arora touting muscaria as a "safe," "non-toxic" and "culturally accepted" edible, anywhere and at any time in this big wide world. It was NEVER "historically accepted" anywhere, not in Russia, not France, not Japan and certainly not in North America, despite one black woman who confessed to preparing it at home for herself (or perhaps to "smother" the steak of her white employers?) in the late 1800s.<br /><br />In my reading of and verification of the many references in that 2008 paper, I found almost no real evidence for their claims. Conjecture is a shaky base upon which to place the trust of less-informed myco-folks, through advising them to eat a known and widely feared toxic mushroom, even after "special preparations."<br /><br />Can you boil the hell out of it (don't forget to toss ALL of that pretty red water!) and dodge that toxic bullet? Sure, but then they are tasteless, and not everyone gets that "recipe" right, not even well-experienced mushroom folks like Tanya and Larry.<br /><br />I have eaten both unboiled muscaria (truly delicious) and boiled muscaria (soggy and tasteless) and i don't recommend it to others, because there are BIG downsides.<br /><br />But don't take my short comment here as the full story. You can read my full rebuttal to the Rubel/Arora paper for yourself, and then make up your own mind as to whether it is worth the risk:<br /><br />http://www.mushroomthejournal.com/bestof/muscaria_revisited.pdf<br /><br />Yours in fungal truth,<br /><br />Debbie Viessdebbie viessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-80562938439894430712014-09-05T18:41:18.737-07:002014-09-05T18:41:18.737-07:00psychedelic mushrooms or shrooms.
http://youtu.be...psychedelic mushrooms or shrooms. <br />http://youtu.be/AZQxH_8raCI<br />This whole story remindes of the song "Spirit in the Sky"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-12196791155842363872014-09-05T16:42:07.565-07:002014-09-05T16:42:07.565-07:00Ah yes, we have that discussion every year... and ...Ah yes, we have that discussion every year... and manage to talk ourselves out of picking them. In Northern NM last weekend we were excited to see robust Muscaria (in greater numbers than any previous year) but disappointed that none of their Edulus brethren were in the vicinity. Oh well, we'll just have to figure out how to best use all those Chanterelles. Life is good. AAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-43493007336165452152014-09-04T12:53:13.206-07:002014-09-04T12:53:13.206-07:00I've eaten 'em (with Hank doing the cookin...I've eaten 'em (with Hank doing the cooking), and they're OK. They were the only mushrooms we'd gotten that day, but if they hadn't been, we probably would not have bothered because the taste was unremarkable.Holly Heyserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03134909592916671876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8732486.post-33681405414703884312014-09-04T03:25:24.413-07:002014-09-04T03:25:24.413-07:00After purchasing Mushrooms Demystified by Arora, I...After purchasing Mushrooms Demystified by Arora, I now understand why you told me it's not a "field guide". It's so thick and heavy I'd need a wheel barrow to take it to the woods, but it is a great resource at home. GilGilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16586106608274313864noreply@blogger.com